"It can be a couple of months but it can also be a couple of years," he said. "If the jobs are really lost due to outsourcing or AI, then unless we find in a couple of years actually we still need those people and replacing them didn't work, then those jobs are gone."
The 34-year-old, from Manchester, creates sculptures out of factory waste as part of her work as artist-in-residence with one of Lancashire's oldest manufacturing companies.
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"I have had conversations with people where they're like 'manufacturing doesn't really exist in this country anymore'," she said.